For a company that so vigorously defends its own patents, Apple ^[1]’s claims that patents owned by Personal Audio LLC were “invalid” sound more than a little odd. And a jury in the Eastern district of Texas agrees. They have ordered Apple to pay Personal Audio $8 million for infringing on the company’s playlist patents. Personal Audio had sued for $84 million, reports Ars Technica’s Jacqui Cheng.

Personal Audio, which licenses its various patents, had sued Apple, Sirus XM Radio ^[2], Archos ^[3], and Coby Electronics ^[4] for infringing on two of its patents regarding downloading playlists. Everyone settled in 2010—except for Apple, which, Personal Audio argues, has been violating the patent with every iPod released since 2001.

Still, there’s a big difference between the $84 million requested and the $8 million granted by the jury. Which begs the question—does Apple have grounds for an appeal?

Read more at ars technica ^[5].